Russia blew away a convoy of Turkish trucks after it was confirmed Edrogan gave order to shoot down
This means it was pre planned, 17 seconds is not long enough to call the President of any nation and get a heads up. This undermines the official word from Turkey badly.
UPDATE: This happened before the Russians shot up the Turkish convoy: Erdogan said Russia's reaction to the plane shoot down was "emotional and unfitting!" and then Etdogan gets whacked for real for being where he should not be . . . . .
So far this has not been in the MSM, (it happened less than an hour ago) but it appears confirmed: